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For those who missed Saturday’s demo from Steorn, the video has been released and posted on Steorn’s web site. During the live stream of the video, the counter showing the number of live viewers was at around 900 — relatively few, I thought, considering the magnitude of what Steorn had said they would be showing.

Perhaps in time when people have had time to analyze the information presented, and after independent tests have been done, and test results released, these videos will generate much more interest — and it could well be that they one day achieve the status of being truly historic as they do seem to show that Steorn has discovered a way to create overunity technology.

If you have spent much time looking at the internet chatter going on following Steorn’s latest (and final) demo, you will see that there are a number of observers who were underwhelmed. Many people it seems were hoping to see something with more of a “wow” factor than what Steorn displayed yesterday. (According to steorn.com the video of the event will be posted February 1)

So today on Steorn’s public forum CEO Sean McCarthy spent quite a bit of time responding to some of the criticisms and laying out the reasons why the demo was presented in the way it was. You can see his comments at this link – McCarthy posts under the name “Steorn”.

Here are some excerpts of his comments in that thread.

“Ok – a little entertaining to read some of the comments this morning. Let me state something very clearly here. The system demonstrated last night is clear evidence of over-unity, or clear evidence of fraud. We either rigged the scope or we did not – and we did not…

“Ok, we are not into showing magic tricks, so if you want flashing lights go some place else. The experiments shown are targeted at a specific audience, indeed the final nature of how to demonstrate the core effect came not from Steorn, but from the consensus opinion of those people who visited the waterways who expressed an interest in developing and had a capability to develop…

“I am not getting defensive at all – quite the opposite in fact – we have been ‘defending’ the technology for 3 years in the public arena. No more, we have shown the goods, there is no longer a question of ‘measurement’ error. Its real or fraud…

“The point about yesterday was how I started this thread (and how I will now leave it). We showed a significant energy result that can only be achived on the basis of the tech being real, or the experiment being rigged – a rigged experiment would be fraud and no doubt I would go to jail for that.”

There were a number of Q&A exchanges in this thread discussing particular details of the experiment , so I would recommend visiting the forum for detailed discussion. The quotes above provide the general position Steorn is taking.

On Steorn’s website there is now a place to sign up if you want to go in person to the Waterways centre in Dublin and test the Orbo devices in person. On the sign-up form, Steorn requests that potential testers provide their educational or professional background so it appears that they will be screening for testers they feel will be suitable candidates.

Did the demo provide conclusive proof of overunity? Apparently many are not convinced, but Sean McCarthy seems to be quite satisfied with what they showed and has said that this will be the extent of their public disclosure of the technology.

So it does appear that for many questions and doubts still linger and it remains to be seen how many have seen enough evidence to take the plunge and become paid up members of the SKDB. So while the waiting game for Steorn’s public revelations is over, the one for real-world useful Orbo powered products has just begun.

Today on Steorn’s forum on their web site, CEO Sean McCarthy made this request.

In July of 2007 in London, Steorn was doing something rather similar to what is going on now in Dublin. They set up a demonstration of Orbo products and invited the public to come and view them. The difference between then and now is the demo actually never happened. The orbo devices they brought to display didn’t work and the doors never opened to the public. Of course this was a public relations disaster for the company and is part of the reason that many people are skeptical of Steorn’s claims — once bitten, twice shy as they say.

Interestingly the company has decided to include a few photographs from the aborted London demo in their recently opened flickr gallery. These are pictures that have never been publicly available before and provide a detailed view of the device that malfunctioned. It is clearly different to the Orbo rig that is currently on display in Dublin. There are no wires, batteries, coils or anything of an electromagnetic nature. This appears to consist of a permanent magnet-only configuration.

Steorn’s explanation for the London failure pointed to the possibility of heat from lights affecting the devices causing bearings to fail.

Obviously Steorn could not afford a repeat of the London experience this time around and maybe the change in devices was made to minimize the chance of another public failure. Whatever the reason, I find it interesting that they would decide to make public pictures of the London demo model at this time, despite the bad memories it might stir up. With the current PR blitz it looks like Steorn is wanting to chronicle its developments and tell its story, warts and all.

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Sean McCarthy made an interesting comment today on Steorn’s forum regarding the testing of Orbo devices at the upcoming public demonstration in January.

Hi Rupert,

We will be placing a system in the Waterways and will allow people to bring their own test equipment (or use ours) – and you can test a system the way you see fit. Note that all tests like this will be done under the supervision of one of engineers – this is simply to prevent someone who might want to break a system apart. However no reasonable request will be refused.

Sean

Many who are curious about Steorn’s claims of overunity are interested to see measurements of input/output power. From Sean McCarthy’s comment here it looks like Steorn are trying to be as open as they reasonably can be in allowing people to carefully examine their claims about their Orbo devices.

If anyone reading this is going to the Waterways it would be great if you do some measurements and report your findings here or elsewhere on the web. Third party validation is going to be key if there is to be widespread acceptance of Steorn’s claims.

Some visitors to the Steorn demonstration at the Waterways Centre have posted pictures and video which help give a more complete picture what has been going on there.

You can find a gallery of many high resolution pictures here.

Here are some links to videos made by recent visitors to the demo:

http://vimeo.com/8356820

It’s nice to get a perspective that is different from the one we have been seeing from the webcam.

We’re two and a half days into Steorn’s demonstration of its Orbo devices at the Waterways Visitors Centre in Dublin.  There are three Orbo rigs with spinning rotors sitting on perspex display platforms. Members of the public can walk up to them and examine them, while online people can watch them via live video streams through Steorn’s web site. There are three cameras looking at the orbos from different angles, however to this point only two cameras seem to work. There are also times when the video streams go offline – sometimes for extended periods.

To this point there are plenty of reasons for people to doubt that they are looking at an overunity (OU) machine which produces more energy than is put into it.  Those who are unconvinced point to three main issues with what they are seeing.

1. There is the presence of a battery – which makes some suspicious that we are just looking at a battery-powered motor. Steorn describe this as an energy reservoir which provide input necessary to fire coils in the device which allow the Orbo to create more energy than is input – and at the same time recharge the battery through a generator.

2. There is the fact that we have seen orbo rigs being unscrewed from their platforms and replaced by new ones. In a recent article Steorn CEO Sean McCarthy is quoted as saying “The systems are up, they’re running and I’m sure some of them will break – it’s a prototype technology . . . We have lots of spare systems and they’ll be replaced. People may be critical of that and I can understand that, but the fundamental point is that we’re demonstrating this system working”

3. As yet there have been no meters attached to the Orbo devices showing energy input or output, nor are they doing any work (such as lighting a bulb) other than spin and so it’s not possible to detect the OU effect from simply observing the machines with the naked eye.

 Steorn have promised that in January there will be live validation and replication sessions which should help shed light on these issues. In the meantime the demonstration is open and it appears from the webcam that many Steorn employees are on site to meet the public. Perhaps at a live visit they might answer visitors’ questions. One commenter on an article at the blog Boing Boing said this: 

Anonymous | #23 | 15:54 on Wed, Dec.16 | Reply

Saw it today in the docklands, spoke to one of the guys, said that in Jan they’re going to be hooking up all the equipment, oscilloscopes, amp meters etc, without those aforementioned devices it’s just a nice looking display with a nice looking girl watching over it!

So it seems there is still more to be revealed as the demo progresses.

As mentioned in an earlier post, the demonstration of an orbo device in London on July 4, 2007 was a failure – the device did not work. This was a disaster for the company from a public relations point of view. A few days following the failed demo, CEO Sean McCarthy was interviewd by the blog Engadget. Click here to read the interview.